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From: Julian Frost (jfrost@orion.oac.uci.edu)
Subject: Re: Who is John C Kim (was To Julian Frost...)
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Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Date: 1995/10/09
In article <45aa8s$19b@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
Jerry Barfield wrote:
>Todd, Just to remind everyone, THIS was my original post. Also see the
>next post.
>
>Subject: The Truth about Master John C Kim
>To: Russell Delbert Johnson
>
[...snip...]
>
> MY TRAINING IN THE MARTIAL ARTS. I have been training in the
>Chung Moo martial arts for over 20 years. I have practiced with martial
>artists from many different styles and feel comfortable with my skills.
> When I do receive from time to time a lesson from John C Kim, every
>time I realize I still have a long way to go.
If you have been training in Chung Moo martial arts for over 20 years,
maybe YOU could tell me the answers to the questions I have been asking
about Kim's training in Aikido, Judo and Kenjutsu? The literature from
the CMD organization does **NOT** give this information, it gives no
lineage whatsoever, and certainly does not say that he has trained in
*ANY* art, other than 'bagua'.
> RUSSELL JOHNSON'S TRAINING IN THE MARTIAL ARTS. [...snip...]
> Russell, I remember your ability. If there were ten of
>you, do you think that you could stop me even if I used one hand? I
>don't think so. If you truly think that you have any martial art skill
>at all and
>would like to test this out, feel free to contact any Chung Moo Doe
>school and I would be happy to meet you in a public place.
Sounds like a threat to me.
>
> PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT John C Kim. I have known John C Kim
>and his family for over 20 years.
So... please just tell us the answers to our questions! You *should* know
them, if you have known Kim for so long.
[...snip...]
>the ex-Chung Moo students that Szimhart used in his scheme saying that
>Chung Moo Quan was a cult and spreading rumors that John C Kim has known
>3000 women, has a third eye, can jump over tall buildings, fly through
>the air and run 125 miles an hour.
The CMD literature **DOES** show a photo of 'Master' Kim doing a flying
kick, and says that it is no ordinary flying kick. Instead, Kim is
supposed to jump up *vertically* then travel *horizontally* to his
target. This **IS** flying through the air! The literature says so!
>National Instructor Jerry
Jerry, please post 'Master' Kim's lineage in each of the martial arts he
supposedly teaches ('as one'). Then we can verify his claims, and when
they are found to be true and accurate, there'll be no more questions! Of
course, if you choose to ignore these requests, as all other CMD
practitioners have done (to date), then the questions will continue.
Julian
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