Posted by KC Elbows on March 28, 2003 at 08:33:31:
In Reply to: Re: Bombastic Generalizations posted by Climber on March 28, 2003 at 08:00:45:
'Funny how you don't have the time to go spar with the Chung Moo Guysw but you do say you have time to drive or fly or teleport or whatever to Colorado to climb often.'
The moo have already stated that all challenges would be responded to with assault charges. Plus, they're beginners. If they want to come to me, then fine. I won't press charges for a legitimate challenge, because I'm not a duplicitous coward.
'If I had the issues with them you seem to I would go talk to them directly instead of just post bad stuff on the internet about them.'
Since we've already established that their instructors post here, I HAVE discussed this with them, which we've already covered in the beginning part of this conversation. They still lie, just like you, about ten story fall training. If the truth about them is bad, it's not my fault now, is it? Going to them and discussing their lies would be pointless. I've spoken with countless ex instructors, I know that they all have to lie at some level, none of them have seen an 11 story fall, and 8 story fall, or a 22 story fall from John Kim, because he's never done it. Why discuss something with them that I know more about?
'If you are so out of control someone couldn't call you a punk to you face with out you attacking them, maybe it's for the best to wait till you get your personality issues a little more resolved. Perhaps meditation or good martial arts training could help or maybe counseling or religious instruction will help.'
You make an assumption. What I am saying is I wouldn't have to fight you, because you would not call me a punk to my face. I never said I would attack anyone, I just know moos, and I know that the big mouths among them only talk smack to their buddies, and never to who they are talking smack about face to face. Nice assumption though.
'But I doubt you get more climbing practice going from KC to Colorado even if you went every weekend, than a serious cliber living in the SanDiego area does.'
Too bad you're not a serious climber, mister 'we all fall 125 feet- I mean, I've seen it numerous times- not in MY group, no of course not'. Nice try though. I guess you'll never know.
'As for myself, I have practiced martial arts awhile, you can call me anything to my and I doubt I would respond with violence. That type of responding to name calling is not the best way.'
Again, your assumption that that is what I was saying. Seeing as YOU'RE the one who was calling names, I really don't care much what you think the best way is. You need to grow up and stop lying to cover a weird guy who insists he can fly. 125 foot falls, sure thing pal.
'However the odds are that if a kung fu student who has less than 10 years under the same good teacher actually touches me in a martial arts situation, it's because I let him in order to do something really fun. History has proven this. Like last week. I don't attend or teach at a school regularly, except for quarterly instruction from my teacher in LA. But I spar with the guy that runs the local MMA (20+ yrs wingchun/jkd/boxing 9years bjj) studio pretty often. The reason I mention this is he seems to have gone past any belt ranking he has achieved by so much experience and hard work that. And the best tai chi guy I studied under had no belt but was open to the idea :) So whatever you say, ok. As long as it's just talk you'll be ok.'
Talk, like your whole paragraph there.
'But like I said also. Attempting harm to me could cause some unpleaant side effects, even if I didn't care concsiouly, I'd probably swat a loud contentious begginner down, and see what he was up to after the attack was stopped. Been there, done that.'
And more talk, name calling, talk, etc. You want to believe I'm a beginner and you want others to believe you're not a moo, that's just fine. Doesn't change the fact that you've lied over and over about climbers training to prepare for 125 foot falls. Their training is called GEAR, they train with that, not to fall huge heights and land 'just right'. And if you know anything about climbing, you know that. Which means you're either a liar lying about having climbing experience, or a liar lying about falls.
There's plenty of well written guides to climbing. Please, familiarize us with the expert who has a method for falling 125 feet without rope, chute, or net. It's certainly not Kim.
I mean, many of the pioneers of climbing have excellent guides and memoirs and such. Please, point me to a passage that relates to a METHOD for surviving great falls, not an occurence of a great fall, BUT AN ACTUAL METHOD FOR DEALING WITH 100 FOOT FALLS UNAIDED BY ANY GEAR WHATSOEVER.
BTW, you won't find any. Good luck on your search though.
'Mean while I've never heard of you going after and challenging the real object of your animosity, the Chung Moo guys.'
No, my animosity is against the moo lies. I could care less about the moo themselves. Attack the lies and the rest will fall away like leaves from a rotted tree. Since the lies are what I detest, I think this is about the best method available for fighting them.
And that's the way it is, moo.
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