Posted by KC Elbows on April 04, 2003 at 09:07:25:
In Reply to: Question about instructors posted by Martial Artist on April 04, 2003 at 08:35:15:
Well, since you clearly infer that you have the video, which was only distributed to various school owners, we can surmise one thing from this:
You're a moo.
Seeing as how you're a moo, of course you're gonna stand up for Jerry's general personality flaws in using people who left the org to defame through the use of that video. Well done. I'm sure your parents are proud.
As for Jerry's movement, you need to familiarize yourself with the concept of flower fist. Flower fist is an old chinese expression referring to people who move really well, in a martial sort of way, but who have less developed martial ability than they have artistic ability.
Now, there's nothing wrong with Jerry focussing more on the art at the detriment of the martial, but you seem to believe that because he is strong in one area, he is strong in all areas. This is really child-like logic.
For instance, many traditional tai chi fighters back in 'the old days' did not work form, they merely worked all of the steps that made up the form individually, and implemented them in push hands practice and fighting. A few learned the form later, as a catalogue of the style, but these martial artists would not be called forms experts, yet they were reknowned fighters. Even Yang Cheng Fu was said to have spent most of his time practicing two different movements, and not the whole form. And Yang Cheng Fu is a reknowned fighter with known fights against qualified martial artists and produced students who were also highly skilled. Unlike both Jerry and his teacher.
Now, you could look at Yang Cheng Fu and say that he was fat, or that his form was not as visibly striking as other practitioners, but the fact remains that he was shown to be a great fighter, a great artist, and a very large number of his students proved to be the same, whereas others of his generation who were prettier to look at made no impact on the martial arts, because they did not have the overall skill of Cheng Fu.
The same with Chen Man Ching. Frankly, his form is not exciting to watch, yet he fought many successful challenges, and he did not even start learning from Yang Cheng Fu until in his thirties. His push hands skill and fighting skill were on a much higher level than many others.
On the flip side, Jerry hasn't fought anyone except maybe amateurs. His form is held by you to be nice, but this is only a small part of the equation that makes up martial arts.
The production of that tape was essentially the same as Jerry saying 'I will stab you in the back because I cannot do it to your face', whether that was his conscious intention or not. Even were he a better fighter than the other instructors on the tape, which is pure speculation, he still has shown that he cannot show the courage to defy a man to his face, and that is not the makeup of a true fighter.
Since you clearly own the tape, why don't you ask your regional or national instructor? Oh, wait, if you were a school owner back then, you probably are a regional or national at this point, unless you're a 'quitter', as they like to say. So why don't you ask yourself?
Of course, your post is a stark admittal that you are also willing to stab those instructors in the back because you haven't the courage to do it to their faces. I'm curious which instructor you are and what I already know about you.
Now might be a good time to take down the 11 story fall story and the all asia championship fable. Because tomorrow might be too late.
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