Posted by KC Elbows on October 17, 2002 at 21:45:12:
In Reply to: Re: Perhaps you didn't understand posted by KindOf on October 17, 2002 at 19:01:15:
'It is a good thing that the likes of some of these posters do not understand the true value of practicing such as the mole form. Without saying something I shouldn't here, I will say that it's highly unlikely that any form is designed to be done as taught in spontaneous combat.'
The energy should be correct on the form, it is merely the appearance of the form that is traditionally changed in order to hide the applications. The energy on the said block leads away from the head and back to it. This is not traditional 'masking' of the form. It is a flaw.
'I will say that it's highly unlikely that any form is designed to be done as taught in spontaneous combat. Such an assumption is typical of either a very immature poster or very unexperienced martial artist.'
Taught as an application, it should not be wasteful in energy and it should not have any major flaws, or it will tend to fail in combat, as the form should train the technique used in combat, just as combat should show what needs to be improved in the form. In the application of this block, it uses excess energy to unnecessarily move the hand away from the face on one side, and past the body towards the other. This is wasteful. Once it is away from the face, the defender is safe. Once it is thrown past the body, the defender is no longer safe. This is flawed. Defend and be done. Continuing the circle in front of the body does not establish any advantage whatsoever, it creates a major disadvantage in that it means the defender is giving the attacker a second chance to attack. This is not theoretical knowledge I discuss here, this is truth. Make that block part of your repertoire, and an opponent with sensitivity will strike you every time with ease.
'To finish up I would say that the original anaylysis of the chung moo forms above while accurate, is relying on out of context application of routines and techniques from within forms.'
Wow, I thought you didn't know the moo forms, yet you know the context of the applications in their forms merely from reading a text description of them by someone you suggest is an inexperienced martial artist? Fascinating exercise in duplicity, do you do it often?
Well the fact is, seeing as how that's the application the moo train that application against, I guess you are calling their arts inexperienced martial arts.
Since you deign to get technical on this discussion, it seems very convenient that you claim expertise you do not convey and expect others to listen, especially considering the logical inconsistencies in your post regarding your knowledge, or I mean supposed lack of knowledge, on the application we speak of here.
Aside from that, two man sets, as you say, can be beneficial, not as much as sparring with what you learn from good forms, but a good application exercise. And I agree that changing the context of the applications by degrees is important and a good exercize, an exercise that should lead to sparring.
Of course, the moo does not really spar now, do they?
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