Posted by Not the moderator on September 30, 2003 at 13:39:24:
HF said he had a 'legal' full auto.
Another said that's illegal for a civilian.
Sonic or some other boob here said, they are all wrong, see how much they don't know, they lie to fool the public and the bad school is really o.k.
Well, here's the regulations from the ATF, go figure for yourself.
Either he had it before 1986, or he's not a civilian i.e. 'a member of an authority.'
They can not be transferred, bought or sold by civilians. A FFL holder can only get them to sell to their law enforcement customers. You can rent them at certain places in some states :)
Lets see what HF comes back with.
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 27, Volume 1]
[Revised as of April 1, 2002]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 27CFR179.105]
[Page 1220-1221]
TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS
CHAPTER I--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS, DEPARTMENT OF THE
TREASURY
PART 179--MACHINE GUNS, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND CERTAIN OTHER FIREARMS--Table of Contents
Subpart G--Registration and Identification of Firearms
Sec. 179.105 Transfer and possession of machine guns.
(a) General. As provided by 26 U.S.C. 5812 and 26 U.S.C. 5822, an
application to make or transfer a firearm shall be denied if the making,
transfer, receipt, or possession of the firearm would place the maker or
transferee in violation of law. Section 922(o), Title 18, U.S.C., makes
it unlawful for any person to transfer or possess a machine gun, except
a transfer to or by, or possession by or under the authority of, the
United States or any department or agency thereof or a State, or a
department, agency, or political subdivision thereof, or any lawful
transfer or lawful possession of a machine gun that was lawfully
possessed before May 19, 1986. Therefore, notwithstanding any other
provision of this part, no application to make, transfer, or import a
machine gun will be approved except as provided by this section.
(b) Machine guns lawfully possessed prior to May 19, 1986. A machine
gun possessed in compliance with the provisions of this part prior to
May 19, 1986, may continue to be lawfully possessed by the person to
whom the machine gun is registered and may, upon compliance with the
provisions of this part, be lawfully transferred to and possessed by the
transferee.
(c) Importation and manufacture. Subject to compliance with the
provisions of this part, importers and manufacturers qualified under
this part may import and manufacture machine guns on or after May 19,
1986, for sale or distribution to any department or agency of the United
States or any State or political subdivision thereof, or for use by
dealers qualified under this part as sales samples as provided in
paragraph (d) of this section. The registration of such machine guns
under this part and their subsequent transfer shall be conditioned upon
and restricted to the sale or distribution of such weapons for the
official use of Federal, State or local governmental entities. Subject
to compliance with the provisions of this part, manufacturers qualified
under this part may manufacture machine guns on or after May 19, 1986,
for exportation in compliance with the Arms Export Control Act (22
U.S.C. 2778) and regulations prescribed thereunder by the Department of
State.
(d) Dealer sales samples. Subject to compliance with the provisions
of this part, applications to transfer and register a machine gun
manufactured or imported on or after May 19, 1986, to dealers qualified
under this part will be approved if it is established by specific
information the expected governmental customers who would require a
demonstration of the weapon, information as to the availability of the
machine gun to fill subsequent orders, and letters from governmental
entities expressing a need for a particular model or interest in seeing
a demonstration of a particular weapon. Applications to transfer more
than one machine gun of a particular model to a dealer must also
establish the dealer's need for the quantity of samples sought to be
transferred.
(e) The making of machine guns on or after May 19, 1986. Subject to
compliance with the provisions of this part, applications to make and
register machine guns on or after May 19, 1986, for the benefit of a
Federal, State or local governmental entity (e.g., an invention for
possible future use of a governmental entity or the making of a weapon
in connection with research and development on behalf of such an entity)
will be approved if it is established by
[[Page 1221]]
specific information that the machine gun is particularly suitable for
use by Federal, State or local governmental entities and that the making
of the weapon is at the request and on behalf of such an entity.
(f) Discontinuance of business. Since section 922(o), Title 18,
U.S.C., makes it unlawful to transfer or possess a machine gun except as
provided in the law, any qualified manufacturer, importer, or dealer
intending to discontinue business shall, prior to going out of business,
transfer in compliance with the provisions of this part any machine gun
manufactured or imported after May 19, 1986, to a Federal, State or
local governmental entity, qualified manufacturer, qualified importer,
or, subject to the provisions of paragraph (d) of this section, dealer
qualified to possess such, machine gun.
[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10510, Mar. 31, 1988]