Posted by KC Elbows on October 16, 2002 at 08:39:40:
In Reply to: Re: TTT: 00m Yung D0e as a style: the pros and cons of the cons posted by OWDK on October 16, 2002 at 08:08:53:
I'll take the simplest one: dedogi.
The block, as I already stated, covers an arc that goes moves an attack away from the face, down, and away from the body in the other direction in a 1/2 circle.
Now, if the attacker follows this block to it's logical conclusion, in other words continues the force in the most efficient way that maintains his or her guard, that would mean he or she would complete the circle. So that a block that starts by covering the head then leads the attack BACK TO THE HEAD, provided the attacker has any instinct whatsoever.
Now, in this case exists that their attack would land at roughly the same time as the chung that follows the block. However, against a skilled opponent, this is not true.
Again, speed is the issue. The attacker's arm will be moving at the speed of the dedogi block WITHOUT ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER FROM THE ATTACKER, AND ENTIRELY BASED UPON THE SPEED OF THE BLOCK.
Now, if the attacker, upon feeling the block's energy circling his arm around, adds only the slightest amount of speed to the circle, their hand will complete the circle before or at the same time as the completion of the block, and well before the start of the chung. Which means the moo has just traded a head shot now for a head shot a moment later, and at what advantage? None, as the attacker's other hand is entirely free to neutralize the chung.
'Well, you were obviouly so impressed with this you had to bring it up from below but all it does is show that an arrogant, uncoordinated rookie (such as yourself may be) can make anything not work.'
Please, regale us all with what is required to actualy make this work, because the way the technique is taught, the weakness above is in it. You cannot seem to counter the argument that the technique is weak, so you go after me, but that does not change the fact that the dedogi block makes it natural for your opponent to attack your head, get blocked in a way that stops that threat, and then discover that you're gonna lead them right back to your head in a circular fashion anyway. If you want to fight that way, that's fine, but it is higher form to neutralize the attack, not bat it aside, and I thought you guys were all big on higher form.
'. I mean like your 35 -40 and found a new martial arts style to learn?'
You guys increase my age three years every time you quote it. As for my experience, I can fight with some of the high level stuff in my art, whereas your art lacks low level, much less high level fighting application, so I don't think I feel too bad about my age or abilities, and my teacher doesn't seem to either.
'Are you holding Chung Moo resposible for you being such a spazz?'
Projecting again?
'Sure you aren't RD?'
Pretty sure, as are you.
'Hahaha!'
C'mon national, you've been fattening up all year, we can't have you scaring all of the kids on Christmas Eve, it's 'HoHoHo!' ,)
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